5. how to deal with burnout as a pastor and teacher (part 2)

00:00
00:00

In this episode JMC, Jon, and Jeff chat about part 2 of burnout--how to spot it, and what to do about it. Also as mentioned in the episode, we'd love to have you join us this year in person in Nashville for our conference, or Vermont or Maui for our retreats and workshops. You can read more about those and signup here or at artofteaching.co

Released on 29 Mar 2023

Share this page...

Coming up next

Q&A | what is the best way to end a sermon?

6 Apr 2023
09:10

In this episode JMC, Jon, and Jeff chat about contextualization. It's importance, how to/not to, and so much more. Also as mentioned in the episode, we'd love to have you join us this year in person in Nashville for our conference, or Vermont or Maui...

6. how to preach when your heart doesn't want to

12 Apr 2023
28:18

In this episode JMC, Jon, and Jeff chat about part 2 of burnout--how to spot it, and what to do about it. Also as mentioned in the episode, we'd love to have you join us this year in person in Nashville for our conference, or Vermont or Maui for our....

1. preaching in a secular society (season 2)

5 Sep 2024
22:24

join John Mark Comer, Jon Tyson, and Jefferson Bethke as we kickoff season 2 of the Art of Teaching podcast! In episode 1 of the new season we chat about how to preach in a secular society and give an overview of our entire second season. Enjoy! PS....
View all episodes
RequestMessagesTimelineExceptionsViews62RouteQueries23Models13Livewire1MailsGateSession
SettingsRequest history8.3.17PHP Version173msRequest Duration4MBMemory UsageGET podcasts/{podcast}/episodes/{episode}
status
200 OK
full_url
https://premier.amperative.site/podcasts/the-art-of-teaching/episodes/5-how-to-deal-with-burnout-as-...
action_name
podcasts.episodes.show
controller_action
App\Http\Controllers\PodcastEpisodesController@show
Theme
Open Button Position
Hide Empty Tabs
Autoshow
Reset to defaults
status
200 OK
full_url
https://premier.amperative.site/podcasts/the-art-of-teaching/episodes/5-how-to-deal-with-burnout-as-...
action_name
podcasts.episodes.show
controller_action
App\Http\Controllers\PodcastEpisodesController@show
uri
GET podcasts/{podcast}/episodes/{episode}
scope_bindings
true
controller
App\Http\Controllers\PodcastEpisodesController@show
file
app/Http/Controllers/PodcastEpisodesController.php:22-38
middleware
web
duration
173ms
peak_memory
4MB
response
text/html; charset=UTF-8
request_format
html
request_query
[]
request_request
[]
request_headers
  0 of 0   
array:15 [▼
  "host" => array:1 [▶
    0 => "premier.amperative.site"
  ]
  "connection" => array:1 [▶
    0 => "keep-alive"
  ]
  "pragma" => array:1 [▶
    0 => "no-cache"
  ]
  "cache-control" => array:1 [▶
    0 => "no-cache"
  ]
  "sec-ch-ua" => array:1 [▶
    0 => ""Chromium";v="130", "HeadlessChrome";v="130", "Not?A_Brand";v="99""
  ]
  "sec-ch-ua-mobile" => array:1 [▶
    0 => "?0"
  ]
  "sec-ch-ua-platform" => array:1 [▶
    0 => ""Windows""
  ]
  "upgrade-insecure-requests" => array:1 [▶
    0 => "1"
  ]
  "user-agent" => array:1 [▶
    0 => "Mozilla/5.0 AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko; compatible; ClaudeBot/1.0; +claudebot@anthropic.com)"
  ]
  "accept" => array:1 [▶
    0 => "text/html,application/xhtml+xml,application/xml;q=0.9,image/avif,image/webp,image/apng,*/*;q=0.8,application/signed-exchange;v=b3;q=0.7"
  ]
  "sec-fetch-site" => array:1 [▶
    0 => "none"
  ]
  "sec-fetch-mode" => array:1 [▶
    0 => "navigate"
  ]
  "sec-fetch-user" => array:1 [▶
    0 => "?1"
  ]
  "sec-fetch-dest" => array:1 [▶
    0 => "document"
  ]
  "accept-encoding" => array:1 [▶
    0 => "gzip, deflate, br, zstd"
  ]
]
request_cookies
[]
response_headers
  0 of 0   
array:3 [▼
  "content-type" => array:1 [▶
    0 => "text/html; charset=UTF-8"
  ]
  "cache-control" => array:1 [▶
    0 => "no-cache, private"
  ]
  "date" => array:1 [▶
    0 => "Thu, 05 Jun 2025 10:38:49 GMT"
  ]
]
session_attributes
  0 of 0   
array:1 [▼
  "_token" => "xXHl60lfyXSOzM384bFFjWAxTXUZZLJSLJNPXoEH"
]
    • Booting (45.43ms)time
    • Application (127ms)time
    • Routing (3.06ms)
    • Preparing Response (75.85ms)
    • 1 x Application (73.67%)
      127ms
      1 x Preparing Response (43.96%)
      75.85ms
      1 x Booting (26.32%)
      45.43ms
      1 x Routing (1.77%)
      3.06ms
      62 templates were rendered
      • 1x templates.podcast-episodes.showshow.blade.php#?blade
      • 1x livewire.section-podcast-playersection-podcast-player.blade.php#?blade
      • 1x components.sections.header-playerheader-player.blade.php#?blade
      • 1x components.sections.header-topheader-top.blade.php#?blade
      • 35x components.iconicon.blade.php#?blade
      • 1x components.player.tracktrack.blade.php#?blade
      • 1x components.modals.modal-confirmationmodal-confirmation.blade.php#?blade
      • 3x components.modals.generic-1generic-1.blade.php#?blade
      • 1x components.sharethissharethis.blade.php#?blade
      • 3x components.cards.episodeepisode.blade.php#?blade
      • 1x components.modals.model-show-signupmodel-show-signup.blade.php#?blade
      • 1x components.recommendations.index-bespokeindex-bespoke.blade.php#?blade
      • 1x components.promotional-blockspromotional-blocks.blade.php#?blade
      • 1x components.sections.footerfooter.blade.php#?blade
      • 2x components.form.inputinput.blade.php#?blade
      • 2x components.form.input-groupinput-group.blade.php#?blade
      • 1x components.layouts.mastermaster.blade.php#?blade
      • 1x components.faviconfavicon.blade.php#?blade
      • 1x components.social-metasocial-meta.blade.php#?blade
      • 1x components.modals.searchsearch.blade.php#?blade
      • 1x components.toast-controllertoast-controller.blade.php#?blade
      • 1x components.modals.model-show-thank-youmodel-show-thank-you.blade.php#?blade
      uri
      GET podcasts/{podcast}/episodes/{episode}
      middleware
      web
      scope_bindings
      true
      controller
      App\Http\Controllers\PodcastEpisodesController@show
      as
      podcasts.episodes.show
      file
      app/Http/Controllers/PodcastEpisodesController.php:22-38
      23 statements were executed (13 duplicates)Show only duplicates64.74ms
      • RedirectMiddleware.php#49premier630μsselect * from `redirects` where `is_regex` = 1 and `redirects`.`deleted_at` is null
        Bindings
        • 0: 1
        Backtrace
        • app/Http/Middleware/RedirectMiddleware.php:49
        • vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php:209
        • vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php:127
        • vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Router.php:807
        • vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Router.php:786
      • RedirectMiddleware.php#79premier450μsselect * from `redirects` where `is_regex` = 0 and `match` = '/podcasts/the-art-of-teaching/episodes/5-how-to-deal-with-burnout-as-a-pastor-and-teacher-part-2' and `is_active` = 1 and `redirects`.`deleted_at` is null limit 1
        Bindings
        • 0: 0
        • 1: /podcasts/the-art-of-teaching/episodes/5-how-to-deal-with-burnout-as-a-pastor-and-teacher-part-2
        • 2: 1
        Backtrace
        • app/Http/Middleware/RedirectMiddleware.php:79
        • vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php:209
        • vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php:127
        • vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Router.php:807
        • vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Router.php:786
      • DatabaseSessionHandler.php#97premier500μsselect * from `sessions` where `id` = 'Ku9vOXlsWXHiLARj2ADkHJFRHUpPRg4YxZC1sEKE' limit 1
        Bindings
        • 0: Ku9vOXlsWXHiLARj2ADkHJFRHUpPRg4YxZC1sEKE
        Backtrace
        • vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Session/DatabaseSessionHandler.php:97
        • vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Session/Store.php:117
        • vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Session/Store.php:105
        • vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Session/Store.php:89
        • vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Session/Middleware/StartSession.php:147
      • ContentFamilyTrait.php#42premier670μsselect * from `podcasts` where `slug` = 'the-art-of-teaching' and `is_active` = 1 and `podcasts`.`deleted_at` is null limit 1
        Bindings
        • 0: the-art-of-teaching
        • 1: 1
        Backtrace
        • app/Models/Traits/ContentFamilyTrait.php:42
        • vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/ImplicitRouteBinding.php:61
        • vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Router.php:961
        • vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Features/SupportPageComponents/SupportPageComponents.php:214
        • vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Middleware/SubstituteBindings.php:42
      • ContentFamilyTrait.php#59premier30.5msselect * from `podcast_episodes` where `podcast_episodes`.`podcast_id` = 55 and `podcast_episodes`.`podcast_id` is not null and `slug` = '5-how-to-deal-with-burnout-as-a-pastor-and-teacher-part-2' and `podcast_episodes`.`deleted_at` is null order by `published_at` desc limit 1
        Bindings
        • 0: 55
        • 1: 5-how-to-deal-with-burnout-as-a-pastor-and-teacher-part-2
        Backtrace
        • app/Models/Traits/ContentFamilyTrait.php:59
        • vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/ImplicitRouteBinding.php:56
        • vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Router.php:961
        • vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Features/SupportPageComponents/SupportPageComponents.php:214
        • vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Middleware/SubstituteBindings.php:42
      • PromotionalBlockCacheMiddleware.php#24premier740μsselect * from `promotional_blocks` where (`display_from` is null or `display_from` < '2025-06-05 11:38:49') and (`display_to` is null or `display_to` > '2025-06-05 11:38:49')
        Bindings
        • 0: 2025-06-05 11:38:49
        • 1: 2025-06-05 11:38:49
        Backtrace
        • app/Http/Middleware/PromotionalBlockCacheMiddleware.php:24
        • vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Cache/Repository.php:427
        • vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Cache/CacheManager.php:453
        • app/Http/Middleware/PromotionalBlockCacheMiddleware.php:23
        • vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php:209
      • PodcastEpisodesController.php#24premier500μsselect exists(select * from `brands` where `brands`.`id` is null and `brands`.`deleted_at` is null) as `exists`
        Backtrace
        • app/Http/Controllers/PodcastEpisodesController.php:24
        • vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Controller.php:54
        • vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/ControllerDispatcher.php:44
        • vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Route.php:266
        • vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Route.php:212
      • PodcastEpisode.php#193premier850μsselect exists(select * from `musicables` where `musicables`.`musicable_type` = 'App\\Models\\PodcastEpisode' and `musicables`.`musicable_id` = 10922 and `musicables`.`musicable_id` is not null) as `exists`
        Bindings
        • 0: App\Models\PodcastEpisode
        • 1: 10922
        Backtrace
        • app/Models/PodcastEpisode.php:193
        • app/Livewire/SectionPodcastPlayer.php:74
        • app/Livewire/SectionPodcastPlayer.php:29
        • vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php:36
        • vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Util.php:43
      • PodcastEpisode.php#100premier630μsselect * from `podcasts` where `podcasts`.`id` = 55 and `podcasts`.`deleted_at` is null limit 1
        Bindings
        • 0: 55
        Backtrace
        • app/Models/PodcastEpisode.php:100
        • app/Models/PodcastEpisode.php:193
        • app/Livewire/SectionPodcastPlayer.php:74
        • app/Livewire/SectionPodcastPlayer.php:29
        • vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php:36
      • Podcast.php#215premier690μsselect exists(select * from `music_genres` inner join `musicables` on `music_genres`.`id` = `musicables`.`music_genre_id` where `musicables`.`musicable_id` = 55 and `musicables`.`musicable_type` = 'App\\Models\\Podcast' and `music_genres`.`deleted_at` is null) as `exists`
        Bindings
        • 0: 55
        • 1: App\Models\Podcast
        Backtrace
        • app/Models/Podcast.php:215
        • app/Models/PodcastEpisode.php:193
        • app/Livewire/SectionPodcastPlayer.php:74
        • app/Livewire/SectionPodcastPlayer.php:29
        • vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php:36
      • SectionPodcastPlayer.php#78premier600μsselect * from `listenable_progress_items` where `listenable_progress_items`.`listenable_type` = 'App\\Models\\PodcastEpisode' and `listenable_progress_items`.`listenable_id` = 10922 and `listenable_progress_items`.`listenable_id` is not null and `user_id` is null limit 1
        Bindings
        • 0: App\Models\PodcastEpisode
        • 1: 10922
        Backtrace
        • app/Livewire/SectionPodcastPlayer.php:78
        • app/Livewire/SectionPodcastPlayer.php:29
        • vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php:36
        • vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Util.php:43
        • vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php:95
      • SectionPodcastPlayer.php#138premier10.43msselect * from `podcast_episodes` where `podcast_id` = 55 and `published_at` < '2023-03-29 09:00:00' and `podcast_episodes`.`deleted_at` is null order by `published_at` desc limit 1
        Bindings
        • 0: 55
        • 1: 2023-03-29 09:00:00
        Backtrace
        • app/Livewire/SectionPodcastPlayer.php:138
        • app/Livewire/SectionPodcastPlayer.php:31
        • vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php:36
        • vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Util.php:43
        • vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php:95
      • SectionPodcastPlayer.php#148premier10.83msselect * from `podcast_episodes` where `podcast_id` = 55 and `published_at` > '2023-03-29 09:00:00' and `podcast_episodes`.`deleted_at` is null order by `published_at` asc limit 3
        Bindings
        • 0: 55
        • 1: 2023-03-29 09:00:00
        Backtrace
        • app/Livewire/SectionPodcastPlayer.php:148
        • app/Livewire/SectionPodcastPlayer.php:32
        • vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php:36
        • vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Util.php:43
        • vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php:95
      • PodcastEpisode.php#193premier770μsselect exists(select * from `musicables` where `musicables`.`musicable_type` = 'App\\Models\\PodcastEpisode' and `musicables`.`musicable_id` = 10922 and `musicables`.`musicable_id` is not null) as `exists`
        Bindings
        • 0: App\Models\PodcastEpisode
        • 1: 10922
        Backtrace
        • app/Models/PodcastEpisode.php:193
        • view::livewire.section-podcast-player:4
        • vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/ExtendBlade/ExtendedCompilerEngine.php:38
        • vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/Engines/CompilerEngine.php:75
        • vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/ExtendBlade/ExtendedCompilerEngine.php:16
      • Podcast.php#215premier540μsselect exists(select * from `music_genres` inner join `musicables` on `music_genres`.`id` = `musicables`.`music_genre_id` where `musicables`.`musicable_id` = 55 and `musicables`.`musicable_type` = 'App\\Models\\Podcast' and `music_genres`.`deleted_at` is null) as `exists`
        Bindings
        • 0: 55
        • 1: App\Models\Podcast
        Backtrace
        • app/Models/Podcast.php:215
        • app/Models/PodcastEpisode.php:193
        • view::livewire.section-podcast-player:4
        • vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/ExtendBlade/ExtendedCompilerEngine.php:38
        • vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/Engines/CompilerEngine.php:75
      • Setting.php#20premier620μsselect * from `settings` where `setting_key` = 'web_donation_link' limit 1
        Bindings
        • 0: web_donation_link
        Backtrace
        • app/Models/Setting.php:20
        • app/Helpers/Settings.php:6
        • vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/ExtendBlade/ExtendedCompilerEngine.php:38
        • vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/Engines/CompilerEngine.php:75
        • vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/ExtendBlade/ExtendedCompilerEngine.php:16
      • Setting.php#20premier1.66msselect * from `settings` where `setting_key` = 'web_donation_link' limit 1
        Bindings
        • 0: web_donation_link
        Backtrace
        • app/Models/Setting.php:20
        • app/Helpers/Settings.php:6
        • vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/ExtendBlade/ExtendedCompilerEngine.php:38
        • vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/Engines/CompilerEngine.php:75
        • vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/ExtendBlade/ExtendedCompilerEngine.php:16
      • PodcastEpisode.php#193premier450μsselect exists(select * from `musicables` where `musicables`.`musicable_type` = 'App\\Models\\PodcastEpisode' and `musicables`.`musicable_id` = 10922 and `musicables`.`musicable_id` is not null) as `exists`
        Bindings
        • 0: App\Models\PodcastEpisode
        • 1: 10922
        Backtrace
        • app/Models/PodcastEpisode.php:193
        • app/Livewire/SectionPodcastPlayer.php:102
        • vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php:36
        • vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Util.php:43
        • vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php:95
      • Podcast.php#215premier540μsselect exists(select * from `music_genres` inner join `musicables` on `music_genres`.`id` = `musicables`.`music_genre_id` where `musicables`.`musicable_id` = 55 and `musicables`.`musicable_type` = 'App\\Models\\Podcast' and `music_genres`.`deleted_at` is null) as `exists`
        Bindings
        • 0: 55
        • 1: App\Models\Podcast
        Backtrace
        • app/Models/Podcast.php:215
        • app/Models/PodcastEpisode.php:193
        • app/Livewire/SectionPodcastPlayer.php:102
        • vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php:36
        • vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Util.php:43
      • PodcastEpisode.php#100premier550μsselect * from `podcasts` where `podcasts`.`id` = 55 and `podcasts`.`deleted_at` is null limit 1
        Bindings
        • 0: 55
        Backtrace
        • app/Models/PodcastEpisode.php:100
        • app/Models/Traits/ThumbnailImage.php:26
        • app/Models/Traits/ThumbnailImage.php:66
        • view::livewire.section-podcast-player:194
        • vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/ExtendBlade/ExtendedCompilerEngine.php:38
      • PodcastEpisode.php#100premier480μsselect * from `podcasts` where `podcasts`.`id` = 55 and `podcasts`.`deleted_at` is null limit 1
        Bindings
        • 0: 55
        Backtrace
        • app/Models/PodcastEpisode.php:100
        • app/Models/Traits/ThumbnailImage.php:26
        • app/Models/Traits/ThumbnailImage.php:66
        • view::livewire.section-podcast-player:194
        • vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/ExtendBlade/ExtendedCompilerEngine.php:38
      • PodcastEpisode.php#100premier470μsselect * from `podcasts` where `podcasts`.`id` = 55 and `podcasts`.`deleted_at` is null limit 1
        Bindings
        • 0: 55
        Backtrace
        • app/Models/PodcastEpisode.php:100
        • app/Models/Traits/ThumbnailImage.php:26
        • app/Models/Traits/ThumbnailImage.php:66
        • view::livewire.section-podcast-player:194
        • vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/ExtendBlade/ExtendedCompilerEngine.php:38
      • Setting.php#20premier640μsselect * from `settings` where `setting_key` = 'web_donation_link' limit 1
        Bindings
        • 0: web_donation_link
        Backtrace
        • app/Models/Setting.php:20
        • app/Helpers/Settings.php:6
        • vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Filesystem/Filesystem.php:124
        • vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/Engines/PhpEngine.php:58
        • vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/ExtendBlade/ExtendedCompilerEngine.php:22
      App\Models\Podcast
      5Podcast.php#?
      App\Models\PodcastEpisode
      5PodcastEpisode.php#?
      App\Models\Setting
      3Setting.php#?
      section-podcast-player #84ranqbobAlscRJ5t7SY
      array:4 [ "data" => array:8 [ "podcast" => App\Models\Podcast {#2301 #connection: "mysql...
          _token
          xXHl60lfyXSOzM384bFFjWAxTXUZZLJSLJNPXoEH
          ClearShow all
          Date ↕MethodURLData
          #12025-06-05 11:38:49GET/podcasts/the-art-of-teaching/episodes/5-how-to-deal-with-burnout-as-a-pastor-and-teacher-part-26223131