Unbelievable?

Premier Unbelievable? exists to encourage non-believers to explore faith and to help Christians to understand, defend and share their faith with confidence.

Presented by Esther Higham, Muyiwa Olarewaju

Every Saturday from 6.30pm - 7pm

Ask Alvin Plantinga Anything - answering your questions

15 Sep 2017
01:21:51

Alvin Plantinga is being awarded the 2017 Templeton Prize in honour of his lifetime contribution to philosophy. The influential thinker has been at the forefront of the revival of philosophical arguments for God as well as making important contributi...

Debating out-of-body and near-death experiences: Susan Blackmore & Graham Nicholls

8 Sep 2017
01:19:12

As as student Susan Blackmore had an out-of-body experience that convinced her of the paranormal. However, after years of research, she came to the conclusion that such experiences are a purely brain phenomenon and not evidence of anything supernatur...

Debating the Unbelievable? book... Round 2. Justin Brierley & Mike Rand

1 Sep 2017
01:22:20

Justin gets a second interrogation from retired agnostic police officer Mike Rand who returns to continue the conversation with the show host about his Christian faith and new book 'Unbelievable? Why, after ten years of talking with atheists, I'm sti...

Is the Trinity in the Old Testament? Glen Scrivener vs Musharraf Hussain

25 Aug 2017
01:21:35

Evangelist Glen Scrivener of Speak Life engages with Imam Musharraf Hussain on whether the Old Testament scriptures support the Christian view of God as Trinity or the Islamic view of Tawhid - the indivisible oneness of God. At the end of the show Jo...

The politics of UK & US evangelicals - Hatcher, Walton, Zmirak & Flannagan (…plus Skye Jethani)

18 Aug 2017
01:22:28

White Christian evangelical voters played a significant part in electing Donald Trump to the White House and have traditionally been aligned with the US Republican Party. But UK evangelicals have very different political habits according to Prof Andr...

Live at Creation Fest: Why I am a Christian, Why I am a Humanist – Andy Bannister & Mark Preedy

11 Aug 2017
01:31:01

Justin presents a live audience edition of the show from the Creation Fest UK event in Wadebridge, Cornwall. He is joined by Christian apologist Andy Bannister and Mark Preedy of Cornwall Humanists. They discuss atheism, Humanism, Christianity and th...

Moses and the Exodus - Archaeological Fact or Fictional Fable? Ted Wright vs Bob Price

4 Aug 2017
01:25:05

Critics of the Old Testament say that the story of Moses leading the Israelites out of slavery in Egypt is a myth and that no archaeological evidence outside scripture exists for the story. However, Ted Wright of Epic Archaeology believes that critic...

Does Science need God? David Hutchings, Tom McLeish & Suzie Sheehy

28 Jul 2017
01:21:29

David Hutchings is a physics teacher and prof Tom McLeish chairs the Royal Society’s education committee. They are both Christians and have co-authored the book ‘Let there be Science: Why God Loves Science and Science needs God’ arguing that the Chri...

Can science, God (or both) explain the human quest for meaning? Alister McGrath & Colin Blakemore

21 Jul 2017
01:21:30

Former atheist biologist-turned-Christian theologian Alister McGrath returns to the show. His new book ‘The Great Mystery’ argues that we need both science and faith to understand our place in the universe and the quest for human meaning. Atheist sci...

An ex-abortionist & pro-abortion doctor debate - Haywood Robinson vs Wendy Savage

14 Jul 2017
01:23:07

Warning: This programme contains descriptions of abortion procedures.  Dr Haywood Robinson practised abortions early in his medical career until his conversion to Christianity. He joins Justin Brierley to explain why he changed his mind and became a...

Grill Paul Copan - your questions answered

7 Jul 2017
01:23:43

Christian philosopher Paul Copan joins Justin to field a variety of questions sent in by show listeners. As well as responding to questions on Old Testament violence and philosophy, Paul engages with agnostic listener Andrew Whyte on evolution and su...

Does God Exist? Ireland debate - William Lane Craig vs. Daniel Came

30 Jun 2017
02:09:40

In a podcast special Justin shares the audio from the debate that took place in Dublin, Ireland between Christian philosopher William Lane Craig and atheist philosopher Daniel Came. Get Unbelievable? the book, plus info on the giveaway and launch eve...

Justin gets interrogated. Former police officer Mike Rand grills Justin on his faith and new book.

23 Jun 2017
01:24:12

To mark the publication of his new book Unbelievable? Why, after ten years of talking with atheists, I’m still a Christian this week the tables are turned on Justin as he gets interviewed by agnostic show listener (and former police officer) Mike Ran...

Why are there differences in the Gospels? Mike Licona & Richard Burridge

16 Jun 2017
01:20:31

Differences between the same stories, words and timelines in the Gospels of Matthew, Mark, Luke and John have been noted since the early days of the Church. Critics claim the differences put the historical reliability of the Gospels into question.  N...

Does evil prove God exists? Frank Turek vs Alex O Connor (aka Cosmic Skeptic)

9 Jun 2017
01:21:31

Christian apologist Frank Turek is an author, speaker and radio show host well known for engaging sceptical students. In this show he dialogues with young atheist Alex O Connor who runs the popular Cosmic Skeptic YouTube channel. After Frank posted a...

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      • ContentFamilyTrait.php#18premier700μsselect * from `podcasts` where `podcasts`.`brand_id` = 2 and `podcasts`.`brand_id` is not null and ((not exists (select * from `brands` where `podcasts`.`brand_id` = `brands`.`id` and `brands`.`deleted_at` is null)) or (exists (select * from `brands` where `podcasts`.`brand_id` = `brands`.`id` and `is_active` = 1 and `brands`.`deleted_at` is null))) and `is_active` = 1 and `podcasts`.`deleted_at` is null
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        • 0: 2
        • 1: 1
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        • app/Models/Traits/ContentFamilyTrait.php:18
        • app/Models/Brand.php:112
        • view::components.sections.sub-menu-brand:38
        • vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Filesystem/Filesystem.php:110
        • vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/Engines/PhpEngine.php:58
      • Setting.php#20premier470μsselect * from `settings` where `setting_key` = 'web_donation_link' limit 1
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        • app/Models/Setting.php:20
        • app/Helpers/Settings.php:6
        • vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Filesystem/Filesystem.php:110
        • vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/Engines/PhpEngine.php:58
        • vendor/livewire/livewire/src/ComponentConcerns/RendersLivewireComponents.php:69
      • Setting.php#20premier440μsselect * from `settings` where `setting_key` = 'web_donation_link' limit 1
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        • 0: web_donation_link
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        • app/Models/Setting.php:20
        • app/Helpers/Settings.php:6
        • vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Filesystem/Filesystem.php:110
        • vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/Engines/PhpEngine.php:58
        • vendor/livewire/livewire/src/ComponentConcerns/RendersLivewireComponents.php:69
      • Setting.php#20premier350μsselect * from `settings` where `setting_key` = 'web_donation_link' limit 1
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        • 0: web_donation_link
        Backtrace
        • app/Models/Setting.php:20
        • app/Helpers/Settings.php:6
        • vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Filesystem/Filesystem.php:110
        • vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/Engines/PhpEngine.php:58
        • vendor/livewire/livewire/src/ComponentConcerns/RendersLivewireComponents.php:69
      • PodcastEpisode.php#100premier490μsselect * from `podcasts` where `podcasts`.`id` = 31 and `podcasts`.`deleted_at` is null limit 1
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        • 0: 31
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        • app/Models/PodcastEpisode.php:100
        • app/Models/Traits/ThumbnailImage.php:26
        • app/Models/Traits/ThumbnailImage.php:66
        • view::templates.podcasts.show:49
        • vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Filesystem/Filesystem.php:110
      • PodcastEpisode.php#132premier460μsselect * from `brands` where `brands`.`id` = 2 and `brands`.`deleted_at` is null limit 1
        Bindings
        • 0: 2
        Backtrace
        • app/Models/PodcastEpisode.php:132
        • view::templates.podcasts.show:49
        • vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Filesystem/Filesystem.php:110
        • vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/Engines/PhpEngine.php:58
        • vendor/livewire/livewire/src/ComponentConcerns/RendersLivewireComponents.php:69
      • PodcastEpisode.php#100premier410μsselect * from `podcasts` where `podcasts`.`id` = 31 and `podcasts`.`deleted_at` is null limit 1
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        • 0: 31
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        • app/Models/PodcastEpisode.php:100
        • app/Models/Traits/ThumbnailImage.php:26
        • app/Models/Traits/ThumbnailImage.php:66
        • view::templates.podcasts.show:49
        • vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Filesystem/Filesystem.php:110
      • PodcastEpisode.php#132premier390μsselect * from `brands` where `brands`.`id` = 2 and `brands`.`deleted_at` is null limit 1
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        • 0: 2
        Backtrace
        • app/Models/PodcastEpisode.php:132
        • view::templates.podcasts.show:49
        • vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Filesystem/Filesystem.php:110
        • vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/Engines/PhpEngine.php:58
        • vendor/livewire/livewire/src/ComponentConcerns/RendersLivewireComponents.php:69
      • PodcastEpisode.php#100premier430μsselect * from `podcasts` where `podcasts`.`id` = 31 and `podcasts`.`deleted_at` is null limit 1
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        • 0: 31
        Backtrace
        • app/Models/PodcastEpisode.php:100
        • app/Models/Traits/ThumbnailImage.php:26
        • app/Models/Traits/ThumbnailImage.php:66
        • view::templates.podcasts.show:49
        • vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Filesystem/Filesystem.php:110
      • PodcastEpisode.php#132premier310μsselect * from `brands` where `brands`.`id` = 2 and `brands`.`deleted_at` is null limit 1
        Bindings
        • 0: 2
        Backtrace
        • app/Models/PodcastEpisode.php:132
        • view::templates.podcasts.show:49
        • vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Filesystem/Filesystem.php:110
        • vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/Engines/PhpEngine.php:58
        • vendor/livewire/livewire/src/ComponentConcerns/RendersLivewireComponents.php:69
      • PodcastEpisode.php#100premier550μsselect * from `podcasts` where `podcasts`.`id` = 31 and `podcasts`.`deleted_at` is null limit 1
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        • 0: 31
        Backtrace
        • app/Models/PodcastEpisode.php:100
        • app/Models/Traits/ThumbnailImage.php:26
        • app/Models/Traits/ThumbnailImage.php:66
        • view::templates.podcasts.show:49
        • vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Filesystem/Filesystem.php:110
      • PodcastEpisode.php#132premier410μsselect * from `brands` where `brands`.`id` = 2 and `brands`.`deleted_at` is null limit 1
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        • 0: 2
        Backtrace
        • app/Models/PodcastEpisode.php:132
        • view::templates.podcasts.show:49
        • vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Filesystem/Filesystem.php:110
        • vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/Engines/PhpEngine.php:58
        • vendor/livewire/livewire/src/ComponentConcerns/RendersLivewireComponents.php:69
      • PodcastEpisode.php#100premier380μsselect * from `podcasts` where `podcasts`.`id` = 31 and `podcasts`.`deleted_at` is null limit 1
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        • 0: 31
        Backtrace
        • app/Models/PodcastEpisode.php:100
        • app/Models/Traits/ThumbnailImage.php:26
        • app/Models/Traits/ThumbnailImage.php:66
        • view::templates.podcasts.show:49
        • vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Filesystem/Filesystem.php:110
      • PodcastEpisode.php#132premier340μsselect * from `brands` where `brands`.`id` = 2 and `brands`.`deleted_at` is null limit 1
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        • 0: 2
        Backtrace
        • app/Models/PodcastEpisode.php:132
        • view::templates.podcasts.show:49
        • vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Filesystem/Filesystem.php:110
        • vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/Engines/PhpEngine.php:58
        • vendor/livewire/livewire/src/ComponentConcerns/RendersLivewireComponents.php:69
      • PodcastEpisode.php#100premier340μsselect * from `podcasts` where `podcasts`.`id` = 31 and `podcasts`.`deleted_at` is null limit 1
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        • 0: 31
        Backtrace
        • app/Models/PodcastEpisode.php:100
        • app/Models/Traits/ThumbnailImage.php:26
        • app/Models/Traits/ThumbnailImage.php:66
        • view::templates.podcasts.show:49
        • vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Filesystem/Filesystem.php:110
      • PodcastEpisode.php#132premier360μsselect * from `brands` where `brands`.`id` = 2 and `brands`.`deleted_at` is null limit 1
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        • 0: 2
        Backtrace
        • app/Models/PodcastEpisode.php:132
        • view::templates.podcasts.show:49
        • vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Filesystem/Filesystem.php:110
        • vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/Engines/PhpEngine.php:58
        • vendor/livewire/livewire/src/ComponentConcerns/RendersLivewireComponents.php:69
      • PodcastEpisode.php#100premier390μsselect * from `podcasts` where `podcasts`.`id` = 31 and `podcasts`.`deleted_at` is null limit 1
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        • 0: 31
        Backtrace
        • app/Models/PodcastEpisode.php:100
        • app/Models/Traits/ThumbnailImage.php:26
        • app/Models/Traits/ThumbnailImage.php:66
        • view::templates.podcasts.show:49
        • vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Filesystem/Filesystem.php:110
      • PodcastEpisode.php#132premier310μsselect * from `brands` where `brands`.`id` = 2 and `brands`.`deleted_at` is null limit 1
        Bindings
        • 0: 2
        Backtrace
        • app/Models/PodcastEpisode.php:132
        • view::templates.podcasts.show:49
        • vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Filesystem/Filesystem.php:110
        • vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/Engines/PhpEngine.php:58
        • vendor/livewire/livewire/src/ComponentConcerns/RendersLivewireComponents.php:69
      • PodcastEpisode.php#100premier420μsselect * from `podcasts` where `podcasts`.`id` = 31 and `podcasts`.`deleted_at` is null limit 1
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        • 0: 31
        Backtrace
        • app/Models/PodcastEpisode.php:100
        • app/Models/Traits/ThumbnailImage.php:26
        • app/Models/Traits/ThumbnailImage.php:66
        • view::templates.podcasts.show:49
        • vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Filesystem/Filesystem.php:110
      • PodcastEpisode.php#132premier430μsselect * from `brands` where `brands`.`id` = 2 and `brands`.`deleted_at` is null limit 1
        Bindings
        • 0: 2
        Backtrace
        • app/Models/PodcastEpisode.php:132
        • view::templates.podcasts.show:49
        • vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Filesystem/Filesystem.php:110
        • vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/Engines/PhpEngine.php:58
        • vendor/livewire/livewire/src/ComponentConcerns/RendersLivewireComponents.php:69
      • PodcastEpisode.php#100premier410μsselect * from `podcasts` where `podcasts`.`id` = 31 and `podcasts`.`deleted_at` is null limit 1
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        • 0: 31
        Backtrace
        • app/Models/PodcastEpisode.php:100
        • app/Models/Traits/ThumbnailImage.php:26
        • app/Models/Traits/ThumbnailImage.php:66
        • view::templates.podcasts.show:49
        • vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Filesystem/Filesystem.php:110
      • PodcastEpisode.php#132premier440μsselect * from `brands` where `brands`.`id` = 2 and `brands`.`deleted_at` is null limit 1
        Bindings
        • 0: 2
        Backtrace
        • app/Models/PodcastEpisode.php:132
        • view::templates.podcasts.show:49
        • vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Filesystem/Filesystem.php:110
        • vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/Engines/PhpEngine.php:58
        • vendor/livewire/livewire/src/ComponentConcerns/RendersLivewireComponents.php:69
      • PodcastEpisode.php#100premier360μsselect * from `podcasts` where `podcasts`.`id` = 31 and `podcasts`.`deleted_at` is null limit 1
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        • 0: 31
        Backtrace
        • app/Models/PodcastEpisode.php:100
        • app/Models/Traits/ThumbnailImage.php:26
        • app/Models/Traits/ThumbnailImage.php:66
        • view::templates.podcasts.show:49
        • vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Filesystem/Filesystem.php:110
      • PodcastEpisode.php#132premier410μsselect * from `brands` where `brands`.`id` = 2 and `brands`.`deleted_at` is null limit 1
        Bindings
        • 0: 2
        Backtrace
        • app/Models/PodcastEpisode.php:132
        • view::templates.podcasts.show:49
        • vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Filesystem/Filesystem.php:110
        • vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/Engines/PhpEngine.php:58
        • vendor/livewire/livewire/src/ComponentConcerns/RendersLivewireComponents.php:69
      • PodcastEpisode.php#100premier380μsselect * from `podcasts` where `podcasts`.`id` = 31 and `podcasts`.`deleted_at` is null limit 1
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        • 0: 31
        Backtrace
        • app/Models/PodcastEpisode.php:100
        • app/Models/Traits/ThumbnailImage.php:26
        • app/Models/Traits/ThumbnailImage.php:66
        • view::templates.podcasts.show:49
        • vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Filesystem/Filesystem.php:110
      • PodcastEpisode.php#132premier350μsselect * from `brands` where `brands`.`id` = 2 and `brands`.`deleted_at` is null limit 1
        Bindings
        • 0: 2
        Backtrace
        • app/Models/PodcastEpisode.php:132
        • view::templates.podcasts.show:49
        • vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Filesystem/Filesystem.php:110
        • vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/Engines/PhpEngine.php:58
        • vendor/livewire/livewire/src/ComponentConcerns/RendersLivewireComponents.php:69
      • PodcastEpisode.php#100premier410μsselect * from `podcasts` where `podcasts`.`id` = 31 and `podcasts`.`deleted_at` is null limit 1
        Bindings
        • 0: 31
        Backtrace
        • app/Models/PodcastEpisode.php:100
        • app/Models/Traits/ThumbnailImage.php:26
        • app/Models/Traits/ThumbnailImage.php:66
        • view::templates.podcasts.show:49
        • vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Filesystem/Filesystem.php:110
      • PodcastEpisode.php#132premier350μsselect * from `brands` where `brands`.`id` = 2 and `brands`.`deleted_at` is null limit 1
        Bindings
        • 0: 2
        Backtrace
        • app/Models/PodcastEpisode.php:132
        • view::templates.podcasts.show:49
        • vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Filesystem/Filesystem.php:110
        • vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/Engines/PhpEngine.php:58
        • vendor/livewire/livewire/src/ComponentConcerns/RendersLivewireComponents.php:69
      • PodcastEpisode.php#100premier320μsselect * from `podcasts` where `podcasts`.`id` = 31 and `podcasts`.`deleted_at` is null limit 1
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        • 0: 31
        Backtrace
        • app/Models/PodcastEpisode.php:100
        • app/Models/Traits/ThumbnailImage.php:26
        • app/Models/Traits/ThumbnailImage.php:66
        • view::templates.podcasts.show:49
        • vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Filesystem/Filesystem.php:110
      • PodcastEpisode.php#132premier370μsselect * from `brands` where `brands`.`id` = 2 and `brands`.`deleted_at` is null limit 1
        Bindings
        • 0: 2
        Backtrace
        • app/Models/PodcastEpisode.php:132
        • view::templates.podcasts.show:49
        • vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Filesystem/Filesystem.php:110
        • vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/Engines/PhpEngine.php:58
        • vendor/livewire/livewire/src/ComponentConcerns/RendersLivewireComponents.php:69
      • PodcastEpisode.php#100premier330μsselect * from `podcasts` where `podcasts`.`id` = 31 and `podcasts`.`deleted_at` is null limit 1
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        • 0: 31
        Backtrace
        • app/Models/PodcastEpisode.php:100
        • app/Models/Traits/ThumbnailImage.php:26
        • app/Models/Traits/ThumbnailImage.php:66
        • view::templates.podcasts.show:49
        • vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Filesystem/Filesystem.php:110
      • PodcastEpisode.php#132premier400μsselect * from `brands` where `brands`.`id` = 2 and `brands`.`deleted_at` is null limit 1
        Bindings
        • 0: 2
        Backtrace
        • app/Models/PodcastEpisode.php:132
        • view::templates.podcasts.show:49
        • vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Filesystem/Filesystem.php:110
        • vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/Engines/PhpEngine.php:58
        • vendor/livewire/livewire/src/ComponentConcerns/RendersLivewireComponents.php:69
      • PodcastEpisode.php#100premier380μsselect * from `podcasts` where `podcasts`.`id` = 31 and `podcasts`.`deleted_at` is null limit 1
        Bindings
        • 0: 31
        Backtrace
        • app/Models/PodcastEpisode.php:100
        • app/Models/Traits/ThumbnailImage.php:26
        • app/Models/Traits/ThumbnailImage.php:66
        • view::templates.podcasts.show:49
        • vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Filesystem/Filesystem.php:110
      • PodcastEpisode.php#132premier360μsselect * from `brands` where `brands`.`id` = 2 and `brands`.`deleted_at` is null limit 1
        Bindings
        • 0: 2
        Backtrace
        • app/Models/PodcastEpisode.php:132
        • view::templates.podcasts.show:49
        • vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Filesystem/Filesystem.php:110
        • vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/Engines/PhpEngine.php:58
        • vendor/livewire/livewire/src/ComponentConcerns/RendersLivewireComponents.php:69
      • Setting.php#20premier360μsselect * from `settings` where `setting_key` = 'web_donation_link' limit 1
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        • 0: web_donation_link
        Backtrace
        • app/Models/Setting.php:20
        • app/Helpers/Settings.php:6
        • vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Filesystem/Filesystem.php:110
        • vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/Engines/PhpEngine.php:58
        • vendor/livewire/livewire/src/ComponentConcerns/RendersLivewireComponents.php:69
      App\Models\Brand
      20Brand.php#?
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      18Podcast.php#?
      App\Models\PodcastEpisode
      15PodcastEpisode.php#?
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      4BrandPage.php#?
      App\Models\Setting
      4Setting.php#?
      App\Models\Presenter
      2Presenter.php#?
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