Unbelievable?

Premier Unbelievable? exists to encourage non-believers to explore faith and to help Christians to understand, defend and share their faith with confidence.

Presented by Esther Higham, Muyiwa Olarewaju

Every Saturday from 6.30pm - 7pm

Classic Replay: Why Suffering? Sharon Dirckx & Alom Shaha

6 Dec 2022
01:06:59

"Why?" was the title of a book that had just been published by Sharon Dirckx looking at God, evil and suffering. She interacted with atheist Alom Shaha as we asked "how can a loving God allow suffering?"   We also heard st...

John Lennox on science, faith and the evidence for God

2 Dec 2022
01:26:27

Get our launch discount for 'Science, Faith and the Evidence for God with John Lennox' https://www.premierunbelievable.com/lennox   Justin is joined by Prof John Lennox to talk about his debates with well-known atheists and to introduce a n.....

Classic Replay: Three views on hell

29 Nov 2022
01:04:15

The film “Hellbound” by Kevin Miller questioned the traditional "eternal, conscious torment" view of hell and asked whether Universalism is actually taught in scripture. Justin was joined by Kevin Miller, along with Glenn Peoples who holds...

Sean McDowell live Q&A on sexuality, transgender and culture war questions

25 Nov 2022
01:22:21

Apologist and author Sean McDowell joined Justin along with hundreds of Unbelievable? listeners for a live show talking about Sean's new book 'A Rebel's Manifesto' and taking questions on LGBT, same-sex marriage, transgender, divorce, theology and .....

Classic Replay: NT Wright & James White debate Paul & Justification

22 Nov 2022
01:09:13

From the archives: NT Wright is a leading professor of New Testament at the forefront of what has been called the New Perspective on Paul. His reassessment of the words of Paul on "justification" led to concern from some reformed church lea...

Were colonial-era missionaries good or bad for Africa? Victor Simz & Jonathan Wilson

18 Nov 2022
01:29:49

Were Victorian missionaries a tool of oppression, exploitation and empire as some critics claim? Or did they leave a legacy of education, healthcare and eradicating inhumane practises?   Victor Simz, known online as the Z Historian, is a Za.....

Classic Replay: Atheist vs Christian philosopher - Arif Ahmed vs Keith Ward

15 Nov 2022
01:44:18

From the archives: the Veritas Forum in Cambridge invited Christian philosopher Keith Ward and atheist philosopher Arif Ahmed to present the reasons for their different worldviews. Justin hosted this discussion with these two thinkers in front of a.....

Can Christianity or Humanism save the planet from climate change? Rachel Mander & Lori Marriott

11 Nov 2022
01:24:41

As COP 27 gets underway Justin is joined by Christian climate campaigner Rachel Mander and Humanist activist Lori Marriott. They agree on the science and what needs to be done but have different views about which worldview provides the better moral.....

Classic Replay: London’s atheist church - Sanderson Jones & David Robertson

8 Nov 2022
01:03:21

In Jan 2013 a new church began in London - with singing, a sermon and a great sense of community - but for godless people. Atheist stand up comedian Sanderson Jones who co-founded "the Sunday Assembly" talked about its first meeting and why...

A Christian and Atheist walk into a bar... Andy Kind & Andy White on comedy, faith and searching for God

4 Nov 2022
01:31:54

Stand up comedians Andy Kind (the Christian) and Andy White (the Atheist) join Justin to talk about comedy and faith and discuss Andy Kind's new book 'Hidden In Plain Sight: Clues you may have missed in the search for meaning'.   For Hidden In Plai.....

Classic Replay: Debating Steve Chalke’s new gay-affirming stance

1 Nov 2022
57:28

In this episode from the archives, we go back to the time when then-leading UK evangelical Steve Chalke wrote an article for Christianity magazine on why he switched to affirming committed, faithful gay relationships. Justin talked to Steve abo.....

Michael Gungor & Evan Wickham: Millennials, music and mystical deconstruction

28 Oct 2022
01:27:41

Michael Gungor and his wife Lisa were pioneers in the Christian music scene, building a loyal fan base through Gungor's music and podcasts such as The Liturgists. However, Michael's recent turn towards an increasingly progressive, msytical and deco.....

Unbelievable? How a top surgeon found his life purpose on a hospital ship - Mark Shrime

25 Oct 2022
26:53

Mark Shrime tells Justin Brierley about his journey of faith and career as a surgeon, which now sees him deliver life-saving treatment around the world with Mercy Ships. Mark is the author of ‘Solving For Why: A surgeon’s journey to discover the tran...

Rethinking Kingdom work in the Global South & North - Joseph D’Souza & Andrew Scott

21 Oct 2022
01:28:26

Joseph D'Souza, bishop of the Good Shepherd Church network in South Asia and Andrew Scott of Operation Mobilisation join Justin to talk about a new paradigm for mission work in the Global South and how it impacts church and culture in the Global No.....

Classic Replay: Did Jesus exist? Richard Carrier vs Mark Goodacre

18 Oct 2022
01:05:20

From Dec 2012. Richard Carrier is the world's foremost proponent of the "mythicist" view of Jesus - that he never actually existed as a historical person. He explained his theory that St. Paul only ever spoke of Jesus in the spiritual r...

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      • ContentFamilyTrait.php#18premier750μsselect * from `podcasts` where `podcasts`.`brand_id` = 2 and `podcasts`.`brand_id` is not null and ((not exists (select * from `brands` where `podcasts`.`brand_id` = `brands`.`id` and `brands`.`deleted_at` is null)) or (exists (select * from `brands` where `podcasts`.`brand_id` = `brands`.`id` and `is_active` = 1 and `brands`.`deleted_at` is null))) and `is_active` = 1 and `podcasts`.`deleted_at` is null
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        • app/Models/Traits/ContentFamilyTrait.php:18
        • app/Models/Brand.php:107
        • view::components.sections.sub-menu-brand:38
        • vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Filesystem/Filesystem.php:110
        • vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/Engines/PhpEngine.php:58
      • Setting.php#20premier370μsselect * from `settings` where `setting_key` = 'web_donation_link' limit 1
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        • app/Models/Setting.php:20
        • app/Helpers/Settings.php:6
        • vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Filesystem/Filesystem.php:110
        • vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/Engines/PhpEngine.php:58
        • vendor/livewire/livewire/src/ComponentConcerns/RendersLivewireComponents.php:69
      • Setting.php#20premier340μsselect * from `settings` where `setting_key` = 'web_donation_link' limit 1
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        • app/Models/Setting.php:20
        • app/Helpers/Settings.php:6
        • vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Filesystem/Filesystem.php:110
        • vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/Engines/PhpEngine.php:58
        • vendor/livewire/livewire/src/ComponentConcerns/RendersLivewireComponents.php:69
      • Setting.php#20premier320μsselect * from `settings` where `setting_key` = 'web_donation_link' limit 1
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        • 0: web_donation_link
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        • app/Models/Setting.php:20
        • app/Helpers/Settings.php:6
        • vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Filesystem/Filesystem.php:110
        • vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/Engines/PhpEngine.php:58
        • vendor/livewire/livewire/src/ComponentConcerns/RendersLivewireComponents.php:69
      • PodcastEpisode.php#102premier420μsselect * from `podcasts` where `podcasts`.`id` = 31 and `podcasts`.`deleted_at` is null limit 1
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        • 0: 31
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        • app/Models/PodcastEpisode.php:102
        • app/Models/Traits/ThumbnailImage.php:26
        • app/Models/Traits/ThumbnailImage.php:66
        • view::templates.podcasts.show:49
        • vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Filesystem/Filesystem.php:110
      • PodcastEpisode.php#134premier390μsselect * from `brands` where `brands`.`id` = 2 and `brands`.`deleted_at` is null limit 1
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        • 0: 2
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        • app/Models/PodcastEpisode.php:134
        • view::templates.podcasts.show:49
        • vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Filesystem/Filesystem.php:110
        • vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/Engines/PhpEngine.php:58
        • vendor/livewire/livewire/src/ComponentConcerns/RendersLivewireComponents.php:69
      • PodcastEpisode.php#102premier400μsselect * from `podcasts` where `podcasts`.`id` = 31 and `podcasts`.`deleted_at` is null limit 1
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        • 0: 31
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        • app/Models/PodcastEpisode.php:102
        • app/Models/Traits/ThumbnailImage.php:26
        • app/Models/Traits/ThumbnailImage.php:66
        • view::templates.podcasts.show:49
        • vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Filesystem/Filesystem.php:110
      • PodcastEpisode.php#134premier430μsselect * from `brands` where `brands`.`id` = 2 and `brands`.`deleted_at` is null limit 1
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        • 0: 2
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        • app/Models/PodcastEpisode.php:134
        • view::templates.podcasts.show:49
        • vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Filesystem/Filesystem.php:110
        • vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/Engines/PhpEngine.php:58
        • vendor/livewire/livewire/src/ComponentConcerns/RendersLivewireComponents.php:69
      • PodcastEpisode.php#102premier380μsselect * from `podcasts` where `podcasts`.`id` = 31 and `podcasts`.`deleted_at` is null limit 1
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        • 0: 31
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        • app/Models/PodcastEpisode.php:102
        • app/Models/Traits/ThumbnailImage.php:26
        • app/Models/Traits/ThumbnailImage.php:66
        • view::templates.podcasts.show:49
        • vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Filesystem/Filesystem.php:110
      • PodcastEpisode.php#134premier380μsselect * from `brands` where `brands`.`id` = 2 and `brands`.`deleted_at` is null limit 1
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        • 0: 2
        Backtrace
        • app/Models/PodcastEpisode.php:134
        • view::templates.podcasts.show:49
        • vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Filesystem/Filesystem.php:110
        • vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/Engines/PhpEngine.php:58
        • vendor/livewire/livewire/src/ComponentConcerns/RendersLivewireComponents.php:69
      • PodcastEpisode.php#102premier420μsselect * from `podcasts` where `podcasts`.`id` = 31 and `podcasts`.`deleted_at` is null limit 1
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        • 0: 31
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        • app/Models/PodcastEpisode.php:102
        • app/Models/Traits/ThumbnailImage.php:26
        • app/Models/Traits/ThumbnailImage.php:66
        • view::templates.podcasts.show:49
        • vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Filesystem/Filesystem.php:110
      • PodcastEpisode.php#134premier440μsselect * from `brands` where `brands`.`id` = 2 and `brands`.`deleted_at` is null limit 1
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        • 0: 2
        Backtrace
        • app/Models/PodcastEpisode.php:134
        • view::templates.podcasts.show:49
        • vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Filesystem/Filesystem.php:110
        • vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/Engines/PhpEngine.php:58
        • vendor/livewire/livewire/src/ComponentConcerns/RendersLivewireComponents.php:69
      • PodcastEpisode.php#102premier400μsselect * from `podcasts` where `podcasts`.`id` = 31 and `podcasts`.`deleted_at` is null limit 1
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        • 0: 31
        Backtrace
        • app/Models/PodcastEpisode.php:102
        • app/Models/Traits/ThumbnailImage.php:26
        • app/Models/Traits/ThumbnailImage.php:66
        • view::templates.podcasts.show:49
        • vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Filesystem/Filesystem.php:110
      • PodcastEpisode.php#134premier520μsselect * from `brands` where `brands`.`id` = 2 and `brands`.`deleted_at` is null limit 1
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        • 0: 2
        Backtrace
        • app/Models/PodcastEpisode.php:134
        • view::templates.podcasts.show:49
        • vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Filesystem/Filesystem.php:110
        • vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/Engines/PhpEngine.php:58
        • vendor/livewire/livewire/src/ComponentConcerns/RendersLivewireComponents.php:69
      • PodcastEpisode.php#102premier400μsselect * from `podcasts` where `podcasts`.`id` = 31 and `podcasts`.`deleted_at` is null limit 1
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        • 0: 31
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        • app/Models/PodcastEpisode.php:102
        • app/Models/Traits/ThumbnailImage.php:26
        • app/Models/Traits/ThumbnailImage.php:66
        • view::templates.podcasts.show:49
        • vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Filesystem/Filesystem.php:110
      • PodcastEpisode.php#134premier420μsselect * from `brands` where `brands`.`id` = 2 and `brands`.`deleted_at` is null limit 1
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        • 0: 2
        Backtrace
        • app/Models/PodcastEpisode.php:134
        • view::templates.podcasts.show:49
        • vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Filesystem/Filesystem.php:110
        • vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/Engines/PhpEngine.php:58
        • vendor/livewire/livewire/src/ComponentConcerns/RendersLivewireComponents.php:69
      • PodcastEpisode.php#102premier450μsselect * from `podcasts` where `podcasts`.`id` = 31 and `podcasts`.`deleted_at` is null limit 1
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        • 0: 31
        Backtrace
        • app/Models/PodcastEpisode.php:102
        • app/Models/Traits/ThumbnailImage.php:26
        • app/Models/Traits/ThumbnailImage.php:66
        • view::templates.podcasts.show:49
        • vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Filesystem/Filesystem.php:110
      • PodcastEpisode.php#134premier380μsselect * from `brands` where `brands`.`id` = 2 and `brands`.`deleted_at` is null limit 1
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        • 0: 2
        Backtrace
        • app/Models/PodcastEpisode.php:134
        • view::templates.podcasts.show:49
        • vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Filesystem/Filesystem.php:110
        • vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/Engines/PhpEngine.php:58
        • vendor/livewire/livewire/src/ComponentConcerns/RendersLivewireComponents.php:69
      • PodcastEpisode.php#102premier410μsselect * from `podcasts` where `podcasts`.`id` = 31 and `podcasts`.`deleted_at` is null limit 1
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        • 0: 31
        Backtrace
        • app/Models/PodcastEpisode.php:102
        • app/Models/Traits/ThumbnailImage.php:26
        • app/Models/Traits/ThumbnailImage.php:66
        • view::templates.podcasts.show:49
        • vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Filesystem/Filesystem.php:110
      • PodcastEpisode.php#134premier520μsselect * from `brands` where `brands`.`id` = 2 and `brands`.`deleted_at` is null limit 1
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        • 0: 2
        Backtrace
        • app/Models/PodcastEpisode.php:134
        • view::templates.podcasts.show:49
        • vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Filesystem/Filesystem.php:110
        • vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/Engines/PhpEngine.php:58
        • vendor/livewire/livewire/src/ComponentConcerns/RendersLivewireComponents.php:69
      • PodcastEpisode.php#102premier430μsselect * from `podcasts` where `podcasts`.`id` = 31 and `podcasts`.`deleted_at` is null limit 1
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        • 0: 31
        Backtrace
        • app/Models/PodcastEpisode.php:102
        • app/Models/Traits/ThumbnailImage.php:26
        • app/Models/Traits/ThumbnailImage.php:66
        • view::templates.podcasts.show:49
        • vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Filesystem/Filesystem.php:110
      • PodcastEpisode.php#134premier470μsselect * from `brands` where `brands`.`id` = 2 and `brands`.`deleted_at` is null limit 1
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        • 0: 2
        Backtrace
        • app/Models/PodcastEpisode.php:134
        • view::templates.podcasts.show:49
        • vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Filesystem/Filesystem.php:110
        • vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/Engines/PhpEngine.php:58
        • vendor/livewire/livewire/src/ComponentConcerns/RendersLivewireComponents.php:69
      • PodcastEpisode.php#102premier390μsselect * from `podcasts` where `podcasts`.`id` = 31 and `podcasts`.`deleted_at` is null limit 1
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        • 0: 31
        Backtrace
        • app/Models/PodcastEpisode.php:102
        • app/Models/Traits/ThumbnailImage.php:26
        • app/Models/Traits/ThumbnailImage.php:66
        • view::templates.podcasts.show:49
        • vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Filesystem/Filesystem.php:110
      • PodcastEpisode.php#134premier450μsselect * from `brands` where `brands`.`id` = 2 and `brands`.`deleted_at` is null limit 1
        Bindings
        • 0: 2
        Backtrace
        • app/Models/PodcastEpisode.php:134
        • view::templates.podcasts.show:49
        • vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Filesystem/Filesystem.php:110
        • vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/Engines/PhpEngine.php:58
        • vendor/livewire/livewire/src/ComponentConcerns/RendersLivewireComponents.php:69
      • PodcastEpisode.php#102premier430μsselect * from `podcasts` where `podcasts`.`id` = 31 and `podcasts`.`deleted_at` is null limit 1
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        • 0: 31
        Backtrace
        • app/Models/PodcastEpisode.php:102
        • app/Models/Traits/ThumbnailImage.php:26
        • app/Models/Traits/ThumbnailImage.php:66
        • view::templates.podcasts.show:49
        • vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Filesystem/Filesystem.php:110
      • PodcastEpisode.php#134premier490μsselect * from `brands` where `brands`.`id` = 2 and `brands`.`deleted_at` is null limit 1
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        • 0: 2
        Backtrace
        • app/Models/PodcastEpisode.php:134
        • view::templates.podcasts.show:49
        • vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Filesystem/Filesystem.php:110
        • vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/Engines/PhpEngine.php:58
        • vendor/livewire/livewire/src/ComponentConcerns/RendersLivewireComponents.php:69
      • PodcastEpisode.php#102premier440μsselect * from `podcasts` where `podcasts`.`id` = 31 and `podcasts`.`deleted_at` is null limit 1
        Bindings
        • 0: 31
        Backtrace
        • app/Models/PodcastEpisode.php:102
        • app/Models/Traits/ThumbnailImage.php:26
        • app/Models/Traits/ThumbnailImage.php:66
        • view::templates.podcasts.show:49
        • vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Filesystem/Filesystem.php:110
      • PodcastEpisode.php#134premier400μsselect * from `brands` where `brands`.`id` = 2 and `brands`.`deleted_at` is null limit 1
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        • 0: 2
        Backtrace
        • app/Models/PodcastEpisode.php:134
        • view::templates.podcasts.show:49
        • vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Filesystem/Filesystem.php:110
        • vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/Engines/PhpEngine.php:58
        • vendor/livewire/livewire/src/ComponentConcerns/RendersLivewireComponents.php:69
      • PodcastEpisode.php#102premier410μsselect * from `podcasts` where `podcasts`.`id` = 31 and `podcasts`.`deleted_at` is null limit 1
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        • 0: 31
        Backtrace
        • app/Models/PodcastEpisode.php:102
        • app/Models/Traits/ThumbnailImage.php:26
        • app/Models/Traits/ThumbnailImage.php:66
        • view::templates.podcasts.show:49
        • vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Filesystem/Filesystem.php:110
      • PodcastEpisode.php#134premier400μsselect * from `brands` where `brands`.`id` = 2 and `brands`.`deleted_at` is null limit 1
        Bindings
        • 0: 2
        Backtrace
        • app/Models/PodcastEpisode.php:134
        • view::templates.podcasts.show:49
        • vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Filesystem/Filesystem.php:110
        • vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/Engines/PhpEngine.php:58
        • vendor/livewire/livewire/src/ComponentConcerns/RendersLivewireComponents.php:69
      • PodcastEpisode.php#102premier410μsselect * from `podcasts` where `podcasts`.`id` = 31 and `podcasts`.`deleted_at` is null limit 1
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        • 0: 31
        Backtrace
        • app/Models/PodcastEpisode.php:102
        • app/Models/Traits/ThumbnailImage.php:26
        • app/Models/Traits/ThumbnailImage.php:66
        • view::templates.podcasts.show:49
        • vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Filesystem/Filesystem.php:110
      • PodcastEpisode.php#134premier410μsselect * from `brands` where `brands`.`id` = 2 and `brands`.`deleted_at` is null limit 1
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        • 0: 2
        Backtrace
        • app/Models/PodcastEpisode.php:134
        • view::templates.podcasts.show:49
        • vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Filesystem/Filesystem.php:110
        • vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/Engines/PhpEngine.php:58
        • vendor/livewire/livewire/src/ComponentConcerns/RendersLivewireComponents.php:69
      • PodcastEpisode.php#102premier500μsselect * from `podcasts` where `podcasts`.`id` = 31 and `podcasts`.`deleted_at` is null limit 1
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        • 0: 31
        Backtrace
        • app/Models/PodcastEpisode.php:102
        • app/Models/Traits/ThumbnailImage.php:26
        • app/Models/Traits/ThumbnailImage.php:66
        • view::templates.podcasts.show:49
        • vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Filesystem/Filesystem.php:110
      • PodcastEpisode.php#134premier430μsselect * from `brands` where `brands`.`id` = 2 and `brands`.`deleted_at` is null limit 1
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        • 0: 2
        Backtrace
        • app/Models/PodcastEpisode.php:134
        • view::templates.podcasts.show:49
        • vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Filesystem/Filesystem.php:110
        • vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/Engines/PhpEngine.php:58
        • vendor/livewire/livewire/src/ComponentConcerns/RendersLivewireComponents.php:69
      • Setting.php#20premier390μsselect * from `settings` where `setting_key` = 'web_donation_link' limit 1
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        • app/Models/Setting.php:20
        • app/Helpers/Settings.php:6
        • vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Filesystem/Filesystem.php:110
        • vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/Engines/PhpEngine.php:58
        • vendor/livewire/livewire/src/ComponentConcerns/RendersLivewireComponents.php:69
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      App\Models\PodcastEpisode
      15PodcastEpisode.php#?
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      4BrandPage.php#?
      App\Models\Setting
      4Setting.php#?
      App\Models\Presenter
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