How Can We Discern Who Is a True or False Prophet?

00:00
00:00

Sermon on the Mount Q+R 5 (E39) – Should we judge abusive behavior in others? Do we need faith in Jesus and the Holy Spirit to be righteous? And how can we discern who is a true or false prophet? In this episode, Tim and Jon respond to your questions from episodes 30-38 in the Sermon on the Mount series, where we explored Matthew 7:1-27. Plus, we share more of the Lord’s Prayer song submissions. Thank you to our audience for your thoughtful contributions to this episode!View more resources on our website →Timestamps Chapter 1: “Are the opening and closing of the sermon at odds with each other?” (00:00-12:50)Chapter 2: “What about judging abusive behavior?” (15:52-27:04)Chapter 3: “How can we be peacemakers but avoid throwing pearls before swine?” (29:43-33:55)Chapter 4: “Is there a pattern in the Bible of angels guarding significant doorways?” (33:55-40:37)Chapter 5: “How can we discern who is a true or false prophet?” (43:40-59:46)Chapter 6: “How do you think Jesus connects the Spirit’s power with living righteously?” (1:01:41-1:11:44)Referenced ResourcesCheck out Tim’s library here.You can experience our entire library of resources in the BibleProject app, available for Android and iOS.Show Music “The Lord’s Prayer 3” by Poor Bishop Hooper“Thine Is the Kingdom” by Aryn Michelle“Creator of the Cosmos” by Andrew Eoff“The Lord’s Prayer” by Wes Crawford“Our Father (Lord’s Prayer)” by Middlebrook Music, Andrew BinghamOriginal Sermon on the Mount music by Richie KohenBibleProject theme song by TENTSShow CreditsJon Collins is the creative producer for today’s show, and Tim Mackie is the lead scholar. Production of today’s episode is by Lindsey Ponder, producer; Cooper Peltz, managing producer; Colin Wilson, producer. Aaron Olsen edited today's episode and also provided our sound design and mix. Tyler Bailey was supervising engineer. JB Witty does our show notes, and Hannah Woo provides the annotations for our app.Powered and distributed by Simplecast.

Released on 13 Nov 2024

Share this page...

Coming up next

Noah and Abraham Surrender on the Mountain

18 Nov 2024
00:55:21

The Mountain E4 — After the exile from the first cosmic mountain of Eden, humanity spirals into depravity and violence. God chooses to expedite their inevitable destruction through a catastrophic flood, but he preserves the family of Noah. Coming out...

Moses, the Intercessor on Mount Sinai

25 Nov 2024
01:02:08

The Mountain E5 — Moses has a complicated identity. He's an Israelite, but he was raised in the house of Pharaoh. He was born in Egypt, but he flees to live in the wilderness with the Midianites. And there in the wilderness, he meets God on two separ...

David, the Failed Intercessor on Mount Zion

2 Dec 2024
00:51:20

The Mountain E6 — In 2 Samuel, David is crowned king of a unified Israel, and after choosing Jerusalem as his capital city, he brings the ark of the covenant to Mount Zion. It seems like things are going great—a priestly king has unified the tribes a...
View all episodes
RequestMessagesTimelineExceptionsViews62RouteQueries22Models13Livewire1MailsGateSession
SettingsRequest history8.3.17PHP Version132msRequest Duration4MBMemory UsageGET podcasts/{podcast}/episodes/{episode}
status
200 OK
full_url
https://premier.amperative.site/podcasts/bibleproject/episodes/how-can-we-discern-who-is-a-true-or-f...
action_name
podcasts.episodes.show
controller_action
App\Http\Controllers\PodcastEpisodesController@show
Theme
Open Button Position
Hide Empty Tabs
Autoshow
Reset to defaults
status
200 OK
full_url
https://premier.amperative.site/podcasts/bibleproject/episodes/how-can-we-discern-who-is-a-true-or-f...
action_name
podcasts.episodes.show
controller_action
App\Http\Controllers\PodcastEpisodesController@show
uri
GET podcasts/{podcast}/episodes/{episode}
scope_bindings
true
controller
App\Http\Controllers\PodcastEpisodesController@show
file
app/Http/Controllers/PodcastEpisodesController.php:22-38
middleware
web
duration
132ms
peak_memory
12MB
response
text/html; charset=UTF-8
request_format
html
request_query
[]
request_request
[]
request_headers
  0 of 0   
array:15 [▼
  "host" => array:1 [▶
    0 => "premier.amperative.site"
  ]
  "connection" => array:1 [▶
    0 => "keep-alive"
  ]
  "pragma" => array:1 [▶
    0 => "no-cache"
  ]
  "cache-control" => array:1 [▶
    0 => "no-cache"
  ]
  "sec-ch-ua" => array:1 [▶
    0 => ""Chromium";v="130", "HeadlessChrome";v="130", "Not?A_Brand";v="99""
  ]
  "sec-ch-ua-mobile" => array:1 [▶
    0 => "?0"
  ]
  "sec-ch-ua-platform" => array:1 [▶
    0 => ""Windows""
  ]
  "upgrade-insecure-requests" => array:1 [▶
    0 => "1"
  ]
  "user-agent" => array:1 [▶
    0 => "Mozilla/5.0 AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko; compatible; ClaudeBot/1.0; +claudebot@anthropic.com)"
  ]
  "accept" => array:1 [▶
    0 => "text/html,application/xhtml+xml,application/xml;q=0.9,image/avif,image/webp,image/apng,*/*;q=0.8,application/signed-exchange;v=b3;q=0.7"
  ]
  "sec-fetch-site" => array:1 [▶
    0 => "none"
  ]
  "sec-fetch-mode" => array:1 [▶
    0 => "navigate"
  ]
  "sec-fetch-user" => array:1 [▶
    0 => "?1"
  ]
  "sec-fetch-dest" => array:1 [▶
    0 => "document"
  ]
  "accept-encoding" => array:1 [▶
    0 => "gzip, deflate, br, zstd"
  ]
]
request_cookies
[]
response_headers
  0 of 0   
array:3 [▼
  "content-type" => array:1 [▶
    0 => "text/html; charset=UTF-8"
  ]
  "cache-control" => array:1 [▶
    0 => "no-cache, private"
  ]
  "date" => array:1 [▶
    0 => "Fri, 06 Jun 2025 08:19:16 GMT"
  ]
]
session_attributes
  0 of 0   
array:1 [▼
  "_token" => "VCWc14pVzvWfnmaLCSTjzUJFMO0n5RUYc2Yiy5MS"
]
    • Booting (34.92ms)time
    • Application (97.41ms)time
    • Routing (3.81ms)
    • Preparing Response (70.13ms)
    • 1 x Application (73.61%)
      97.41ms
      1 x Preparing Response (52.99%)
      70.13ms
      1 x Booting (26.38%)
      34.92ms
      1 x Routing (2.88%)
      3.81ms
      62 templates were rendered
      • 1x templates.podcast-episodes.showshow.blade.php#?blade
      • 1x livewire.section-podcast-playersection-podcast-player.blade.php#?blade
      • 1x components.sections.header-playerheader-player.blade.php#?blade
      • 1x components.sections.header-topheader-top.blade.php#?blade
      • 35x components.iconicon.blade.php#?blade
      • 1x components.player.tracktrack.blade.php#?blade
      • 1x components.modals.modal-confirmationmodal-confirmation.blade.php#?blade
      • 3x components.modals.generic-1generic-1.blade.php#?blade
      • 1x components.sharethissharethis.blade.php#?blade
      • 3x components.cards.episodeepisode.blade.php#?blade
      • 1x components.modals.model-show-signupmodel-show-signup.blade.php#?blade
      • 1x components.recommendations.index-bespokeindex-bespoke.blade.php#?blade
      • 1x components.promotional-blockspromotional-blocks.blade.php#?blade
      • 1x components.sections.footerfooter.blade.php#?blade
      • 2x components.form.inputinput.blade.php#?blade
      • 2x components.form.input-groupinput-group.blade.php#?blade
      • 1x components.layouts.mastermaster.blade.php#?blade
      • 1x components.faviconfavicon.blade.php#?blade
      • 1x components.social-metasocial-meta.blade.php#?blade
      • 1x components.modals.searchsearch.blade.php#?blade
      • 1x components.toast-controllertoast-controller.blade.php#?blade
      • 1x components.modals.model-show-thank-youmodel-show-thank-you.blade.php#?blade
      uri
      GET podcasts/{podcast}/episodes/{episode}
      middleware
      web
      scope_bindings
      true
      controller
      App\Http\Controllers\PodcastEpisodesController@show
      as
      podcasts.episodes.show
      file
      app/Http/Controllers/PodcastEpisodesController.php:22-38
      22 statements were executed (13 duplicates)Show only duplicates36.97ms
      • RedirectMiddleware.php#49premier690μsselect * from `redirects` where `is_regex` = 1 and `redirects`.`deleted_at` is null
        Bindings
        • 0: 1
        Backtrace
        • app/Http/Middleware/RedirectMiddleware.php:49
        • vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php:209
        • vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php:127
        • vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Router.php:807
        • vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Router.php:786
      • RedirectMiddleware.php#79premier660μsselect * from `redirects` where `is_regex` = 0 and `match` = '/podcasts/bibleproject/episodes/how-can-we-discern-who-is-a-true-or-false-prophet' and `is_active` = 1 and `redirects`.`deleted_at` is null limit 1
        Bindings
        • 0: 0
        • 1: /podcasts/bibleproject/episodes/how-can-we-discern-who-is-a-true-or-false-prophet
        • 2: 1
        Backtrace
        • app/Http/Middleware/RedirectMiddleware.php:79
        • vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php:209
        • vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php:127
        • vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Router.php:807
        • vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Router.php:786
      • DatabaseSessionHandler.php#97premier520μsselect * from `sessions` where `id` = 'wGEUoT8gCXklbYElspzpKEU2zmWnRwD1sZVY9iZf' limit 1
        Bindings
        • 0: wGEUoT8gCXklbYElspzpKEU2zmWnRwD1sZVY9iZf
        Backtrace
        • vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Session/DatabaseSessionHandler.php:97
        • vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Session/Store.php:117
        • vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Session/Store.php:105
        • vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Session/Store.php:89
        • vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Session/Middleware/StartSession.php:147
      • ContentFamilyTrait.php#42premier690μsselect * from `podcasts` where `slug` = 'bibleproject' and `is_active` = 1 and `podcasts`.`deleted_at` is null limit 1
        Bindings
        • 0: bibleproject
        • 1: 1
        Backtrace
        • app/Models/Traits/ContentFamilyTrait.php:42
        • vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/ImplicitRouteBinding.php:61
        • vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Router.php:961
        • vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Features/SupportPageComponents/SupportPageComponents.php:214
        • vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Middleware/SubstituteBindings.php:42
      • ContentFamilyTrait.php#59premier9.41msselect * from `podcast_episodes` where `podcast_episodes`.`podcast_id` = 36 and `podcast_episodes`.`podcast_id` is not null and `slug` = 'how-can-we-discern-who-is-a-true-or-false-prophet' and `podcast_episodes`.`deleted_at` is null order by `published_at` desc limit 1
        Bindings
        • 0: 36
        • 1: how-can-we-discern-who-is-a-true-or-false-prophet
        Backtrace
        • app/Models/Traits/ContentFamilyTrait.php:59
        • vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/ImplicitRouteBinding.php:56
        • vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Router.php:961
        • vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Features/SupportPageComponents/SupportPageComponents.php:214
        • vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Middleware/SubstituteBindings.php:42
      • PodcastEpisodesController.php#24premier470μsselect exists(select * from `brands` where `brands`.`id` is null and `brands`.`deleted_at` is null) as `exists`
        Backtrace
        • app/Http/Controllers/PodcastEpisodesController.php:24
        • vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Controller.php:54
        • vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/ControllerDispatcher.php:44
        • vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Route.php:266
        • vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Route.php:212
      • PodcastEpisode.php#193premier710μsselect exists(select * from `musicables` where `musicables`.`musicable_type` = 'App\\Models\\PodcastEpisode' and `musicables`.`musicable_id` = 24766 and `musicables`.`musicable_id` is not null) as `exists`
        Bindings
        • 0: App\Models\PodcastEpisode
        • 1: 24766
        Backtrace
        • app/Models/PodcastEpisode.php:193
        • app/Livewire/SectionPodcastPlayer.php:74
        • app/Livewire/SectionPodcastPlayer.php:29
        • vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php:36
        • vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Util.php:43
      • PodcastEpisode.php#100premier520μsselect * from `podcasts` where `podcasts`.`id` = 36 and `podcasts`.`deleted_at` is null limit 1
        Bindings
        • 0: 36
        Backtrace
        • app/Models/PodcastEpisode.php:100
        • app/Models/PodcastEpisode.php:193
        • app/Livewire/SectionPodcastPlayer.php:74
        • app/Livewire/SectionPodcastPlayer.php:29
        • vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php:36
      • Podcast.php#215premier550μsselect exists(select * from `music_genres` inner join `musicables` on `music_genres`.`id` = `musicables`.`music_genre_id` where `musicables`.`musicable_id` = 36 and `musicables`.`musicable_type` = 'App\\Models\\Podcast' and `music_genres`.`deleted_at` is null) as `exists`
        Bindings
        • 0: 36
        • 1: App\Models\Podcast
        Backtrace
        • app/Models/Podcast.php:215
        • app/Models/PodcastEpisode.php:193
        • app/Livewire/SectionPodcastPlayer.php:74
        • app/Livewire/SectionPodcastPlayer.php:29
        • vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php:36
      • SectionPodcastPlayer.php#78premier410μsselect * from `listenable_progress_items` where `listenable_progress_items`.`listenable_type` = 'App\\Models\\PodcastEpisode' and `listenable_progress_items`.`listenable_id` = 24766 and `listenable_progress_items`.`listenable_id` is not null and `user_id` is null limit 1
        Bindings
        • 0: App\Models\PodcastEpisode
        • 1: 24766
        Backtrace
        • app/Livewire/SectionPodcastPlayer.php:78
        • app/Livewire/SectionPodcastPlayer.php:29
        • vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php:36
        • vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Util.php:43
        • vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php:95
      • SectionPodcastPlayer.php#138premier7.92msselect * from `podcast_episodes` where `podcast_id` = 36 and `published_at` < '2024-11-13 08:00:00' and `podcast_episodes`.`deleted_at` is null order by `published_at` desc limit 1
        Bindings
        • 0: 36
        • 1: 2024-11-13 08:00:00
        Backtrace
        • app/Livewire/SectionPodcastPlayer.php:138
        • app/Livewire/SectionPodcastPlayer.php:31
        • vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php:36
        • vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Util.php:43
        • vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php:95
      • SectionPodcastPlayer.php#148premier9.25msselect * from `podcast_episodes` where `podcast_id` = 36 and `published_at` > '2024-11-13 08:00:00' and `podcast_episodes`.`deleted_at` is null order by `published_at` asc limit 3
        Bindings
        • 0: 36
        • 1: 2024-11-13 08:00:00
        Backtrace
        • app/Livewire/SectionPodcastPlayer.php:148
        • app/Livewire/SectionPodcastPlayer.php:32
        • vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php:36
        • vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Util.php:43
        • vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php:95
      • PodcastEpisode.php#193premier600μsselect exists(select * from `musicables` where `musicables`.`musicable_type` = 'App\\Models\\PodcastEpisode' and `musicables`.`musicable_id` = 24766 and `musicables`.`musicable_id` is not null) as `exists`
        Bindings
        • 0: App\Models\PodcastEpisode
        • 1: 24766
        Backtrace
        • app/Models/PodcastEpisode.php:193
        • view::livewire.section-podcast-player:4
        • vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/ExtendBlade/ExtendedCompilerEngine.php:38
        • vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/Engines/CompilerEngine.php:75
        • vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/ExtendBlade/ExtendedCompilerEngine.php:16
      • Podcast.php#215premier570μsselect exists(select * from `music_genres` inner join `musicables` on `music_genres`.`id` = `musicables`.`music_genre_id` where `musicables`.`musicable_id` = 36 and `musicables`.`musicable_type` = 'App\\Models\\Podcast' and `music_genres`.`deleted_at` is null) as `exists`
        Bindings
        • 0: 36
        • 1: App\Models\Podcast
        Backtrace
        • app/Models/Podcast.php:215
        • app/Models/PodcastEpisode.php:193
        • view::livewire.section-podcast-player:4
        • vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/ExtendBlade/ExtendedCompilerEngine.php:38
        • vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/Engines/CompilerEngine.php:75
      • Setting.php#20premier450μsselect * from `settings` where `setting_key` = 'web_donation_link' limit 1
        Bindings
        • 0: web_donation_link
        Backtrace
        • app/Models/Setting.php:20
        • app/Helpers/Settings.php:6
        • vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/ExtendBlade/ExtendedCompilerEngine.php:38
        • vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/Engines/CompilerEngine.php:75
        • vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/ExtendBlade/ExtendedCompilerEngine.php:16
      • Setting.php#20premier510μsselect * from `settings` where `setting_key` = 'web_donation_link' limit 1
        Bindings
        • 0: web_donation_link
        Backtrace
        • app/Models/Setting.php:20
        • app/Helpers/Settings.php:6
        • vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/ExtendBlade/ExtendedCompilerEngine.php:38
        • vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/Engines/CompilerEngine.php:75
        • vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/ExtendBlade/ExtendedCompilerEngine.php:16
      • PodcastEpisode.php#193premier510μsselect exists(select * from `musicables` where `musicables`.`musicable_type` = 'App\\Models\\PodcastEpisode' and `musicables`.`musicable_id` = 24766 and `musicables`.`musicable_id` is not null) as `exists`
        Bindings
        • 0: App\Models\PodcastEpisode
        • 1: 24766
        Backtrace
        • app/Models/PodcastEpisode.php:193
        • app/Livewire/SectionPodcastPlayer.php:102
        • vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php:36
        • vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Util.php:43
        • vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php:95
      • Podcast.php#215premier600μsselect exists(select * from `music_genres` inner join `musicables` on `music_genres`.`id` = `musicables`.`music_genre_id` where `musicables`.`musicable_id` = 36 and `musicables`.`musicable_type` = 'App\\Models\\Podcast' and `music_genres`.`deleted_at` is null) as `exists`
        Bindings
        • 0: 36
        • 1: App\Models\Podcast
        Backtrace
        • app/Models/Podcast.php:215
        • app/Models/PodcastEpisode.php:193
        • app/Livewire/SectionPodcastPlayer.php:102
        • vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php:36
        • vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Util.php:43
      • PodcastEpisode.php#100premier520μsselect * from `podcasts` where `podcasts`.`id` = 36 and `podcasts`.`deleted_at` is null limit 1
        Bindings
        • 0: 36
        Backtrace
        • app/Models/PodcastEpisode.php:100
        • app/Models/Traits/ThumbnailImage.php:26
        • app/Models/Traits/ThumbnailImage.php:66
        • view::livewire.section-podcast-player:194
        • vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/ExtendBlade/ExtendedCompilerEngine.php:38
      • PodcastEpisode.php#100premier480μsselect * from `podcasts` where `podcasts`.`id` = 36 and `podcasts`.`deleted_at` is null limit 1
        Bindings
        • 0: 36
        Backtrace
        • app/Models/PodcastEpisode.php:100
        • app/Models/Traits/ThumbnailImage.php:26
        • app/Models/Traits/ThumbnailImage.php:66
        • view::livewire.section-podcast-player:194
        • vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/ExtendBlade/ExtendedCompilerEngine.php:38
      • PodcastEpisode.php#100premier480μsselect * from `podcasts` where `podcasts`.`id` = 36 and `podcasts`.`deleted_at` is null limit 1
        Bindings
        • 0: 36
        Backtrace
        • app/Models/PodcastEpisode.php:100
        • app/Models/Traits/ThumbnailImage.php:26
        • app/Models/Traits/ThumbnailImage.php:66
        • view::livewire.section-podcast-player:194
        • vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/ExtendBlade/ExtendedCompilerEngine.php:38
      • Setting.php#20premier450μsselect * from `settings` where `setting_key` = 'web_donation_link' limit 1
        Bindings
        • 0: web_donation_link
        Backtrace
        • app/Models/Setting.php:20
        • app/Helpers/Settings.php:6
        • vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Filesystem/Filesystem.php:124
        • vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/Engines/PhpEngine.php:58
        • vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/ExtendBlade/ExtendedCompilerEngine.php:22
      App\Models\Podcast
      5Podcast.php#?
      App\Models\PodcastEpisode
      5PodcastEpisode.php#?
      App\Models\Setting
      3Setting.php#?
      section-podcast-player #zP1obsmrNUKNsqFInwGd
      array:4 [ "data" => array:8 [ "podcast" => App\Models\Podcast {#2301 #connection: "mysql...
          _token
          VCWc14pVzvWfnmaLCSTjzUJFMO0n5RUYc2Yiy5MS
          ClearShow all
          Date ↕MethodURLData
          #12025-06-06 09:19:16GET/podcasts/bibleproject/episodes/how-can-we-discern-who-is-a-true-or-false-prophet6222131